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should he also be concerned with the quality of the transport and whether the unit is made to
Posted by: TheLex (335) on 2018-01-23 17:29:17 In Reply to: A DAC can be a component on it's own, or built into a component of another name. posted by Rubberduckie on 2018-01-23 14:45:06	Share \| Report

Red Book standards?

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Old guy question. What's a DAC and why do I need one? Do I need one? - quatsync 2018-01-23 11:04:56 (395 views)
- You need it because its something to spend money and and delivers subjective results - #1 HeartlessNomad12 2018-01-26 16:47:46 (306 views)
- If you want to try one out, I have one that I'm not using anymore. - Pelican Pete 2018-01-25 11:05:19 (356 views)
  - Thanks for the kind offer. I didn't realize it, but my Audioengine B1 has a particularly good DAC. - quatsync 2018-01-28 07:42:12 (357 views)
    - Yes it does. In fact I have an AudioEngine DAC, which should be the same that's in your B1 - Pelican Pete 2018-01-28 09:38:34 (302 views)
      - My speakers are Altec Iconic 846As (Valencias). They might be older than I am. I think the B1 has  -  quatsync  2018-01-28 09:49:32 (314 views)
        
        Oops, my bad. I thought that the B1 was one of their powered speakers.  -  Pelican Pete  2018-01-29 10:29:46 (297 views)
        
        Harman Kardon FL8350. Before that was an NAD 5355.   -  quatsync  2018-01-29 17:43:55 (292 views)
        
        The HK does have a coax digital out   -  Pelican Pete  2018-01-30 09:20:40 (267 views)
        
        Yes. It starts to skip after it's been playing for a little while. Mrs. quatsync gives me  -  quatsync  2018-01-30 14:58:26 (329 views)
        
        An excellent question!  -  Pelican Pete  2018-01-30 23:20:22 (310 views)
        
        Also, a little sewing machine oil on the transport rails might help too.  -  Rubberduckie  2018-01-31 11:47:10 (261 views)
  - I had the exact same DAC. Nice unit. - Rubberduckie 2018-01-25 13:29:17 (325 views)
    - Yep, I've got the upgraded power supply too. In fact thought I had I lost my standard power supply - Pelican Pete 2018-01-25 13:39:22 (294 views)
- Depends...what's the rest of your system look like? - thinset 2018-01-24 08:23:01 (305 views)
- Gosh. Thanks for all the responses. Sounds like this DAC contraption, in broad terms, improves - quatsync 2018-01-24 10:14:56 (379 views)
  - You have a DAC whether you like it or not. - hemants 2018-01-25 13:51:22 (292 views)
  - not exactly. you must have a DAC in some form to listen to music from a digital source. - cabernet and turkey 2018-01-24 10:44:05 (380 views)
    - Ah. Sharper focus now. If my CD changer doesn't have a digital output, it's good if I'm satisfied - quatsync 2018-01-24 12:07:30 (362 views)
      - yes. just make sure the DAC supports the file format. - cabernet and turkey 2018-01-24 12:11:01 (340 views)
    - ^^True^^ - gription 2018-01-24 12:06:05 (346 views)
- It depends on what you are connecting but if you keep all your connections digital then no. - JustMtnB44 2018-01-24 09:38:26 (341 views)
- If you use your PC (or Mac) as an audio source, a DAC will sound worlds better than using - gription 2018-01-23 15:41:48 (380 views)
  - All depends on setup right? I come out of my MacBook Pro digitally with HDMI and let the receiver - Carbon 2018-01-25 16:11:55 (288 views)
- A DAC can be a component on it's own, or built into a component of another name. - Rubberduckie 2018-01-23 14:45:06 (392 views)
  - <makes mental note about squeezebox comment> - Real 4x4 2018-01-24 19:01:10 (316 views)
  - should he also be concerned with the quality of the transport and whether the unit is made to - TheLex 2018-01-23 17:29:17 (338 views)
    - The Redbook standard is 16/44, which is what the player has to comply with to be considered - Rubberduckie 2018-01-23 18:58:38 (317 views)
      - then what's the deal with CD players from folks like Emotiva who claim "strict" Red Book standards?  -  TheLex  2018-01-23 20:24:02 (321 views)
        
        Specs do not guarantee performance. They are for spec nerds.  -  Rubberduckie  2018-01-23 21:09:54 (323 views)
        
        what, you don't use a green marker on the edge of your CDs? One of the best players I've heard  -  TheLex  2018-01-23 22:21:03 (346 views)
        
        It's usually the combination. Balance is everything.  -  Rubberduckie  2018-01-23 23:47:31 (346 views)
        
        Oh I remember the Denon - a friend had one and I had auditioned it multiple times. Should have  -  TheLex  2018-01-24 03:07:59 (324 views)
- Have you ever tried to blow up a photograph from a 1" passport photo? - hemants 2018-01-23 11:54:10 (420 views)
  - pre-amps also usually have at least 1 DAC. - cabernet and turkey 2018-01-23 12:36:28 (420 views)
    - Not so much in home audio. - Rubberduckie 2018-01-23 15:44:52 (344 views)
      - not so much in home audio? 13 out of 15 home audio pre-amps on crutchfield.com have a DAC.   -  cabernet and turkey  2018-01-23 20:53:15 (338 views)
        
        Yes, but Crutchfield doesn't exactly carry a broad range of manufacturers to choose from.  -  Rubberduckie  2018-01-24 11:09:48 (313 views)
        
        that was just an example. many of those other brands carry at least 1 pre-amp w/DAC  -  cabernet and turkey  2018-01-24 12:07:02 (362 views)
    - None of my preamps have a DAC - gription 2018-01-23 15:31:52 (376 views)
      - were any of them built after 1970?   -  cabernet and turkey  2018-01-23 20:39:55 (315 views)
        
        Yes. All of them.  -  gription  2018-01-24 09:48:58 (314 views)
        
        reality is most modern pre-amps have a DAC.  -  cabernet and turkey  2018-01-24 12:58:29 (345 views)
        
        Many do, many do not. Audio Research and C-J do not offer a Preamp with a DAC  -  gription  2018-01-24 13:42:03 (357 views)

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